Mitch's Fish

[mitch]

96"x30"x30" Heated tank

Cichlids

2 x Argentea's
2 x Pearsei
4 x Boccourti's
2 x Godmanni's
1 x Reganni
1 x Male Jag.
1 x Oscar
2 x Pantostictum. (Also a number of grow outs)
3 x Tamasopo
1 x Synspilum
1 x Melanurum (Not 100% sure as bought as synspilum but looks more like melanurm)
2 x Convicts (With fry/growouts)

Others

2 x Red hooks
1 x Fire eel
1 x Rusty plec
3 x L200
1 x L114
1 x L001
2 x Terrapins
2 x L075

108"x30"Hx24" Cold water tank.

Perch, rudd, roach, carp and some catfish.

[damba]

Nice list of fish

[Ash]

nice list mitch, how big is your fire eel?? - hope you've got a tight lid on that tank :)

[mitch]

Cheers lads, the fire eel is 20"ish. The water level is low for the terrapins to bask so there's no probs with the eel escaping.

[edieharper]

nice list and some decent sie tanks there! like the coldwater especialy would love that tank and setup, why not take some picks :D plz :)

[stutaylor2]

Hows the terrapins doing fella, still ok?

[mitch]

Yes mate, the terrapins are doing well, as long as they are well fed!!

[Ash]

mitch, did you have to reinforce your foundations for those tanks?? and also who made your bases for your tanks? just wondering for the modest 3'3'2' tank i'm getting - but as it'll be in the living room i don't really want an all metal base

[mitch]

No mate i never reinforced anything under the floor, but i inspected the joist and surrports first and found they were perfect and spaced out well.

i made the unit myself as it had to natch the kitchen.

Here is a link with the history of the tank incase interested :-

http://www.cichlidsoutheast.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2175&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

That reminds me i need to update it, a job for later.

[Ash]

it won't let me see that link mitch and i even tried to register and it would even let me do that :(

[mitch]

Try now mate , if interested.

[Ash]

still no luck :( - have you got any info on photobucket??

[mitch]

No mate, sorry.

[SICK LIDS]

96"x30"x30" Heated tank

108"x30"Hx24" Cold water tank.

Perch, rudd, roach, carp and some catfish.

Nice collection Mitch.

Did you catch the Perch or buy them?

Very cool fish to keep

[mitch]

Bought them mate.

[mitch]

Just added 2 L075's to the list.

[mitch]

I lost a few fish a couple of months back just update my list.

96"x30"x30" Heated tank

Cichlids

2 x Argentea's
2 x Pearsei
4 x Boccourti's
2 x Godmanni's
1 x Male Jag.
1 x Oscar
1 x Synspilum
1 x Melanurum (Not 100% sure as bought as synspilum but looks more like melanurm)
2 x Convicts

Others

2 x Red hooks
1 x Fire eel
1 x Rusty plec
3 x L200
1 x L114
1 x L001
2 x Terrapins
2 x L075

Corner tank.

8 x Pantostictum.

108"x30"Hx24" Cold water tank.

Perch, rudd, roach, carp and some catfish.


I have on order 6 irregularis, 1 salvini, 4 Nebulferus and 4 lyonsi. (dont know where there going to go, i may have to put the panto's in the big tank or move them on)
Also have a nice choc which tenby2 has grown on for me that i should be picking up soon.

[Ash]

did you order a male or female salvini mitch? just ordered a female myself and i can't wait "Cool"
also, when are you going to get around and post a new video of your tank "Blink1"

[mitch]

Getting a female as thats all ross had left.

I'll try and sort a vid out later when i heve the new fish as there is nothing different from the exstsing vid i already have.

Saying that i have been thinking about doing one on the argenrea's, they are both great fish but one of them hasn't got the big black spots which makes him pure silver. He does have the very small dot on every scale like most have.

[mitch]

The 6 irregularis, 1 salvini, 4 Nebulferus and 4 lyonsi. Arrived yesturday and they were put in with the panto's. I have lost 1 fish which is either a Nebulferus or a irregularis as i cant tell them apart now there together. The panto's are nipping a lot so they will be put into the big tank as soon as i have made some more hiding places.

But i have noticed that the Nebulferus/irregularis are nipping each other (i was warned about this by grummie last week) as i have no other tanks for them i'am not sure what to do. I should be collecting some more wood very soon so that will give more hiding places.

Btw what is the best tempretue for the Nebulferus and irregularis.

Also the choc which tenby2 has grown on for me is happy swimming around in the 8' tank. Cheers mark!

[Rick Thibert]

Mitch, the irregularis have silver on the bottom of the operculums and look as if they are flaring them, but they aren't.

I got 14 of them from Ross as little guys but growing like mad! :) Lovely! What size did you get?

BC

[mitch]

The irregularis and the Neb's are just over 2", i think the neb's were a bit smaller but i just can not see any differance at this size.

The lyonsi are 2.5-3" and the salv is 3"+

Rick do your irregularis nip each other? As i said earlie grummie di warn me that these do this last week.

[Rick Thibert]

I've heard bad things about irregularis chasing the pants off each other, but as they are in with 10x Nanoluteus and a pair of Bartoni, things are OK at the moment. No doubt as they get bigger things will change, but no real aggression just yet.............. no doubt with sexual maturity things will get nasty! :(

BC

[mitch]

All the nipping in the corner tank has of stoped for now, so thats good news.
Ordering a few more from ross to go in there aswell as a couple of others.

Also i have been offered a large male red terror, i have not kept these myself but have been told this one is very gentle compared to others, should i try it in the 8' tank???

[ia246]

In the URL change phpBB2 to phpBB3 and it should work

[mitch]

What should?

[ia246]

Thats weird - that post was meant to go somewhere else...

[Jim Dawson]

Hi Mitch

Why not give the Festae a try, I think they are excellent fish and don't quite deserve the reputation they have. My four are in with 4 geos, a pair of heros and an assortment of cats. All in a 2 mtr tank, plenty of bogwood and remarkably little aggro. A single male would certainly be a fine addition in an 8 footer. Mine are all female, I think, but they are still good sized at 8", if you take it and it doesn't work I for one would be happy to take it off your hands.

Regards

Jim

[Rick Thibert]

if you take it and it doesn't work I for one would be happy to take it off your hands

................. at our first meeting potentially! :)

BC

[Jim Dawson]

Hi All

Take it any time!!!

Jim

[umbee1]

All the nipping in the corner tank has of stoped for now, so thats good news.
Ordering a few more from ross to go in there aswell as a couple of others.

Also i have been offered a large male red terror, i have not kept these myself but have been told this one is very gentle compared to others, should i try it in the 8' tank???

In over 28 yrs of fishkeeping i have never met a "gentle" red terror apart from a dead one!!
Mitch man!! why do you think they got that name:)
I have kept females ok but large males imo are a different story.

[mitch]

28yrs..... and the rest!!"Big Smile"

Would love to give it ago but if it goes tits up i've nowhere to put him as he will be to big for the two pairs of dovii ive got coming that are going into the 9' tank.

[Rick Thibert]

"Two pair of dovii" ................... and your worried about one Festae??? LOL!!

Get it and add them in all at the same time if you can! :) Surely Marcus' sump can get you out of a spot of trouble..............

BC

[umbee1]

28yrs..... and the rest!!"Big Smile"

Would love to give it ago but if it goes tits up i've nowhere to put him as he will be to big for the two pairs of dovii ive got coming that are going into the 9' tank.

What??? you trying to say i'm old? :)

2 pairs of dovii? More tanks on the way?

[mitch]

Mate, 2 x 300g and a corner tank should be more than enough! (i think not!)
I got a 5x2x2 sitting in the back of the van aswell just havn't got the cash to set it up at the mo. Plus waiting for a good time to tell the misses that i have it.

Aztec, if i try it and it dont work would you be interested and if so how quick could you get it?

The Dovii are will be going in the 9' on the garage, but if i get in trouble at there size they would't cause to much trouble indoors in the 8'....... For a short while only!

[Rick Thibert]

I got a 5x2x2 sitting in the back of the van aswell just havn't got the cash to set it up at the mo. Plus waiting for a good time to tell the misses that i have it. "Amazed""Amazed""Amazed""Amazed""Amazed"

"Idea""Idea""Idea""Idea"Tell her you got chatting with a customer today and he said he had an old tank in the garage you could have for a small donation of 20.00 or something. :) "Laugh""Laugh""Laugh""Laugh""Cool""Cool""Cool""Cool"

BC

[mitch]

"Laugh"Was going to do something like that!!!

But its going in the garage and we kinda agreed we wouldn't heat the garage yet and talk about it after winter.

BTW if anyone ask's Dovii are a cold water fish!!!!!"Laugh""Laugh"

[Rick Thibert]

Mitch! Perhaps you can get some KingSpan on 3 sides of the tanks and have a bit on the front for when you're not in there you can hinge in place........... will help out a lot!

BC

[mitch]

Yeah will do that, its aroud the 9' already.

[Rick Thibert]

Better than heating the garage or losing all your heat just the same! :)

BC

[chris]

You sound just like me Mitch.The amount of stuff i get free its unreal.LOL!"Blink1"

[mitch]

He He He!!!!

[mitch]

Got to give the RT a miss as am skint and got a bad feeling that my firm hasn't got much work once i have finished the site i am on so all spending has to stop for the time bieng.

On another note I have finally recived the fish from ross from last months rapps order, these are 2 x unrelated pairs of f1 Dovii, 1 x pair tiger mot's and 3 small gibbiceps.

I must thank ross as he held them for me until i had a saturday free so they could be delivered, Cheers mate!

[chris]

Seen the Panto having a go now on utube.Nasty little sod.I see why its one of the most aggressive Herichthys.LOL

[Rick Thibert]

Mitch! I know AZTEC and one other (slipped my mind at current) are after a decent male festae............... Perhaps you can PM them the details of where this fish is if you're passing it up?

BC

[mitch]

I need to update this thread!! Will do soon with some pic's aswell now the misses has her new cam.


But i have just put a couple off plec's in the 9' as there is loads of algee, whilst looking in the tank i noticed... which i knew i was going to have problems with one day but not for a while though, the males from the 2 pairs of dovii in there were proppa jaw locking, and they are only 5" at the mo.

Just think i am going to put a pair of umbees in there soon aswell!

[Rick Thibert]

Look forward to the pics mate!

The umbees are gonna be a great addition! I'm glad you got a new cam! :)

BC

[mitch]

Stock update: -

4 x Boccourti 9"-15/16". 1m 3f
1 x Pearsi 9/10". f?
2 x Godmanni's 7". 2f
1 x Roberstoni 5/6". ?
1 x Jag 15/16". m
1 x Oscar 14/15". ?
2 x Argentea 10-12". 2m
2 x Synspila 7-10". 1m 1f
1 x Midas 10". Think f
2 x Red tiger mot. 5-7". 1m 1f
2 x V Hetro's 6". 1m 1f
1 x Choc 7/8". ?
3 x Salveni 4,5 & 6". 2m 1f
2 x Lyonsi 3 & 5". 1m 1f
2 x Red hooks 9". 1m 1f
4 x Amur catfish 3,5 and 2 10"+
1 x Bullhead catfish 10"+
2 x L075
1 x L114
1 x L001

2 x Umbee's 1m 1f
2 x Dovii 1m 1f
1 x Gibby plec.
1 x Common Gold plec
1 x Girraffe cat

[umbee1]

Mitch, you know deep in your heart what you really want, and i have it lol!

[mitch]

Mitch, you know deep in your heart what you really want, and i have it lol!

It seem You know me to well aswell!!

[mitch]

A couple of vids of the 8'.

YouTube - Cichlids, cat's and terrapins in the 8'YouTube - Cichlids, cats and terrapins in the 8'

Feeding freenzy!

YouTube - Cichlids and terrapins feeding time again!

[Sash]

Great videos!! enjoyed watching them,,, That terrapins must have some bite on them,if they can hold onto that and not let go....Can you stick your finger in to show us how bad a bite is lol,,,,

[Domski]

Very nice Mitch!! I like!"Big Smile"

[mitch]

Cheers! Thought it was about time i put something new up.

Yes terrapins do have a bite on them, one of them bit the misses on the check last year, she had a scar for ages.

[Lee Nuttall]

Great collection of fish mate. I love how those Terrapins are in the thick of the feeding frenzy."Big Smile"

[Kenny]

Love them all....

But the Bocourtis and Argys are something special...

Cant beat a bit of Turtle/Terrapin in with your fish, bring s something different to the tank... "Big Smile"

[mitch]

Cheers again! I agree ken they make a great addition as long as there well fed!
I love all the fish in there but the ones that stand out to me are the Jag, The Silver agree and now the Midas. Cheers for her Scott, just think i was going to say no.

I was planning on extending and making a viv above the tank and add either a snake or water dragons. One day perhaps.

[ia246]

Very nice mitch - I agree that jag is special!

[Kenny]

Cheers again! I agree ken they make a great addition as long as there well fed!
I love all the fish in there but the ones that stand out to me are the Jag, The Silver agree and now the Midas. Cheers for her Scott, just think i was going to say no.

I was planning on extending and making a viv above the tank and add either a snake or water dragons. One day perhaps.

Go for Water Dragons.... I hate snakes they make my skin crawl

[Domski]

A snake would be more managable than waterdragons I reckon but it's whatever floats yr boat.

[umbee1]

Go for Water Dragons.... I hate snakes they make my skin crawl

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/umbee1/burnese1.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/umbee1/cp.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/umbee1/crb1.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/umbee1/crboa.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/umbee1/boa1.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/umbee1/208l.jpg

HAVE A NICE NIGHT'S SLEEP, JUST GO TO BED WITH SNAKES ON YOUR MIND!!LOL!

[Kenny]

Nasty Man Tony

[umbee1]

nasty man tony

they're sweet mate, i used to sit watching tele with the burmese around my neck and one of my cats on my lap.
Fancy getting another boa, they have one about 10' and as thick as your thigh at my local garden center, maybe i'll buy it and bring it up to the auction!!lol!

by the way, i was speaking to my mate up in london who's into spiders and told him about those camel spiders, he said "i've got an indian ornamentle spider" they are the same thing!! Nutcase, he said it was a bit aggressive!!

just checked think they are different.

[Domski]

they're sweet mate, i used to sit watching tele with the burmese around my neck and one of my cats on my lap.
Fancy getting another boa, they have one about 10' and as thick as your thigh at my local garden center, maybe i'll buy it and bring it up to the auction!!lol!

by the way, i was speaking to my mate up in london who's into spiders and told him about those camel spiders, he said "i've got an indian ornamentle spider" they are the same thing!! Nutcase, he said it was a bit aggressive!!

just checked think they are different.

Definitely different spiders Tony.

[mitch]

Whats going on??? You've hijacked my fish thread!!!

Only kidding, sleep well kenny!

[mitch]

Right, back to my fish!!!!

Not the best vid in the world but here's whats going on in the 9'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGyOiG0XFRYYouTube - 9' with Dovii's and Umbee's

[Rick Thibert]

Fantastic to see both pairs with fry! Great video Mitch!! :) They look great! :)

[Domski]

Awesome Mitch! Truely awesome!! Well impressed!"Big Smile"

[mitch]

Cheers lads!

[mitch]

Thought i'ld udate as i have moved some fish on.

Stock update: -

8' Tank

Had to sadly move on an Argentea as he was being picked on by the other male. 2 Boccourti's as i think they needed to be moved on so they can show there full potentional. And my midas as he was starting to boss the tank as they do.

2 x Boccourti 13"-15/16". 2f
1 x Pearsi 10". f?
2 x Godmanni's 8". 2f
1 x Roberstoni 6". ?
1 x Jag 15/16". m
1 x Oscar 14/15". ?
1 x Argentea 12". 1m
2 x Synspila 9 & 10". 1m 1f
2 x Red tiger mot. 7 & 8". 1m 1f
2 x V Hetro's 7-8". 1m 1f
1 x Choc 8". ?
3 x Salveni 5,6 & 7". 2m 1f
2 x Lyonsi 4 & 6". 1m 1f
2 x Red hooks 9". 1m 1f
4 x Amur catfish 3,5 and 2 10"+
1 x Bullhead catfish 10"+
2 x L075
1 x L114
1 x L001
1 x Girraffe cat

9' Tank.

After loosing the female dovii i decided to part with the male (which i now regret as he was bigger than i thought and turning out to be a cracker) so the Umbee's can have the run of the tank with a few dither/target fish.

2 x Umbee's 1m 1f
5 x Silver dollars
1 x Gibby plec.
1 x Common Gold plec

Will try and udate with some video's soon.

[mitch]

This may well be my last video of this tank and set up so please enjoy!!

YouTube - Cichlids Cichlids Cichlids!! Oh and cats and Terrapins!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKtbXmlw0NY

[Michael Kwist]

Nice bocourti,Godmani and pearsei,

Does the turtle not bite the cichlids? It looks fantastic a turtle with the fish.. but i have seen turtle eating goldfish ;) There are Dutch stingraykeepers who have flying river turtle's (FRT) in their tank.

[mitch]

Cheers Micheal.
As long as the terrapins are well fed they don't bother the fish at all.

[Davidefc]

Stunning tank mate, the fish look great as well.

How bigs the L114?

[Sash]

Beautiful fish, (except the the catfish thing lol),, did you get the fish at the big sizes or did you grow some on??

[mitch]

Cheers!

The L114 i'ld say is about 7", no more than 8.

Good question Sash, the big boccourti was over 10" when i got her and the argee was about 9" if i remember right. Where as the jag was 7", the smaller bo apx 7-8" but the rest were all 3"-6".

And that catfish thing lol, i took on a few months back.

[Rick Thibert]

Looks Lovely Mitch! :)

[grummie2]

Very interesting tank Mitch !! Those bocourti are fantastic !!!

[shaz]

very nice, wish I could trust my terrapins in beside mine. Oh do you cut there claws as my two have claws twice that length (may be a sign mine are male though)

[mitch]

Cheers all! Still can't believe i've sold it!

I don't cut the terrapins claws, the male has never had any front ones while i've had him but they also get the run of the garden if its nice so that helps keep the claws trim.

[mitch]

Well been a bit bored today so to pick myself up i decided to change the tank a bit and introduce the female argentea and blackbelt thats been in quarantine this last week.

I must say that i am very happy with the blackbelt and as long as he keeps to himself he'll be with me a long time, cheers Martin!

So far so good with the only upset being my synspila is thowing his weight around so i'll be keeping an eye on him.

[Kenny]

I love the Boccourti. Wow.

You still got them?

[Steve]

Well been a bit bored today so to pick myself up i decided to change the tank a bit and introduce the female argentea and blackbelt thats been in quarantine this last week.

I must say that i am very happy with the blackbelt and as long as he keeps to himself he'll be with me a long time, cheers Martin!

So far so good with the only upset being my synspila is thowing his weight around so i'll be keeping an eye on him.

Hi Mitch, after that game today, I'm not surprised your bored. We are just crap at set pieces. Drog's goal was a cracker.
Back on topic, that tank looked fantastic, It's such a shame it couldn't go with you.

[mitch]

Still have the bo's Ken, there huge.

Did'nt see the game (dont happen often) as had to go out earlier, was told i did'nt miss much though. And yes am gutted its staying but looking foward to setting something else up.

[mitch]

You all know i have moved now and hav'nt got the big tanks but thought i'ld update my list. (mainly for me to know what i have)
All fish are currently in a pond in the front room. Hopefully this will only be for a short while.
I am not ment to be getting anything new until there homes are sorted but...... i took a large pair of Nic's from Peteruk and am buying a large male convict to swap with, get this - an argentea, a nic and a hetro! A deal to good to refuse.

2 x Boccourti 13"-15". 2f
1 x Pearsi 10". f?
2 x Godmanni's 8". 2f
1 x Jag 15". m
1 x Oscar 14/15". ?
2 x Argentea 12" & 10" 1m 1f
2 x Synspila 9 & 10". 1m 1f
2 x Red tiger mot. 7 & 8". 1m 1f
2 x V Hetro's 7-8". 1m 1f
1 x Choc 8". ?
2 x Salveni 6 & 7". 2m
1 x Lyonsi 4". 1f
2 x Nic's 9" & 7". 1m 1f
1 x Blackbelt 7-8" 1m
2 x Red hooks 9". 1m 1f
4 x Amur catfish 3,5 and 2 10"+
1 x Bullhead catfish 10"+
2 x L075
1 x L114
1 x L001
5 x Silver dollars
1 x Gibby plec.
1 x Common Gold plec
2 x adult terrapins.

Size's are apx

[Ashley_Hollings]

You all know i have moved now and hav'nt got the big tanks but thought i'ld update my list. (mainly for me to know what i have)
All fish are currently in a pond in the front room. Hopefully this will only be for a short while.
I am not ment to be getting anything new until there homes are sorted but...... i took a large pair of Nic's from Peteruk and am buying a large male convict to swap with, get this - an argentea, a nic and a hetro! A deal to good to refuse.

2 x Boccourti 13"-15". 2f
1 x Pearsi 10". f?
2 x Godmanni's 8". 2f
1 x Jag 15". m
1 x Oscar 14/15". ?
2 x Argentea 12" & 10" 1m 1f
2 x Synspila 9 & 10". 1m 1f
2 x Red tiger mot. 7 & 8". 1m 1f
2 x V Hetro's 7-8". 1m 1f
1 x Choc 8". ?
2 x Salveni 6 & 7". 2m
1 x Lyonsi 4". 1f
2 x Nic's 9" & 7". 1m 1f
2 x Red hooks 9". 1m 1f
4 x Amur catfish 3,5 and 2 10"+
1 x Bullhead catfish 10"+
2 x L075
1 x L114
1 x L001
5 x Silver dollars
1 x Gibby plec.
1 x Common Gold plec
2 x adult terrapins.

Size's are apx

What a cracking and fair deal laugh

What sizes are they at??

[mitch]

I think they are all around the 6" mark. A midas was put in with them and they dont get on and he want's to keep the midas and let him grow to a nice size along with a pair of con's. He already has the female con and my lfs have some big male's at the mo.

[Ashley_Hollings]

the deal between a local fish friend or some random found off the net?

[Lee Nuttall]

i took a large pair of Nic's from Peteruk and am buying a large male convict to swap with, get this - an argentea, a nic and a hetro! A deal to good to refuse.



Hi mitch, did pete get the nics from Ash, If so they were originally my pair.

[mitch]

Hi mitch, did pete get the nics from Ash, If so they were originally my pair.

Dont know mate, if they are they've done the rounds! lol

Pete, Ash maybee you can answer this?

[Lee Nuttall]

Nice too keep track of your fish, lol. ;)

[Rick Thibert]

Any pics of this pond in yer front room?? LOL!! ;)

[mitch]

the deal between a local fish friend or some random found off the net?

A mate, he's mad the argee and hetro are very nice and a good size. The nic and the cutteri dont look to happy at the mo as the being chased by the other 2. All in a 3' tank at the mo but the argee and hetro will go in the pond probably tomorrow so the smaller 2 can rest.

Rick, its not much to see just a horrible black pond in the corner of the front room!

[Lee Nuttall]

Rick, its not much to see just a horrible black pond in the corner of the front room!

I think we wanted to see it for the fun factor, not many people have fish ponds in the front room, lol. ;D Your missus must be tolarant.

When do you hope to get a tank again Mitch?

[mitch]

My misses has been great about it, she's a star!!! But i think i'll be getting a 'get something done by ...........' very soon.

But, as for the new tank, all i can honestly say is that things not going to plan at the mo.

I'll try and get something up for your 'fun factor' soon. lol

[Ashley_Hollings]

So come on then how much did the convict cost you?

[Rick Thibert]

I've soaked carpets one too many times for the missus to let me have any tanks indoors any more! LOL!

Hence the shed outdoors! LOL!!

[mitch]

So come on then how much did the convict cost you?

That would be telling, but i would of paid a hell of a lot more!! lol

[Ashley_Hollings]

Arr Boo,,,well its going to take someone alot to beat that deal.

[craig g]

reading this has made me laugh.mitch i will have most of your fish obviously at a cost.will do swaps on the mrs front lol.

[mitch]

That sounds like you wanna swap your misses for my fish!!!!!!!! carzy

If that is the case i'll pass, one's bad enough!!!!!laughlaughlaugh

[mitch]

My stock list now!

2 x Boccourti 13"-15". 2f
1 x Pearsi 10". f?
1 x Jag 15". m
1 x Oscar 14/15". ?
3 x Argentea 12" & 10" 6-7" 1m 1f 1?
2 x Synspila 9 & 10". 1m 1f
3 x V Hetro's 7-8". 1m 1f
1 x Blackbelt 7-8" 1m
2 x Red hooks 9". 1m 1f
4 x Amur catfish 3,5 and 2 10"+
1 x Bullhead catfish 10"+
2 x L075
1 x L114
1 x L001
1 x Common Gold plec
2 x adult terrapins.

[Lee Nuttall]

Didn't know you had a black belt, where did you get the fish?

[mitch]

I thought i'ld share this vid with you :-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLBIe18xSVk

Its not mine but looks exactly the same as the one i sold one a few years back which i've regreted ever since, its one amazing (even though ugly) cat!
Now i have parted with my smaller fish i'll be looking for another soon!!!
So please keep an eye out for me!!

[mitch]

Didn't know you had a black belt, where did you get the fish?

I got him from Martin (bluejax) at the last auction, althogh not much red he's has good marking and now and then a green tint to him.

Have been toying with putting him in my small tank for a few days to take some pic's.

[mitch]

Just scrolling back through this thread and all my early video links dont work, any idea's?

[retry]

you got to re-do the link using the new bb code as it changed with the forum.

[craig g]

regret it too mitch i should have never moved the jelly cat on.feel a right prat after watching the vid cos they are the nuts.
found these taken a couple of days after i picked him up from u mitch.all phone pics i think or just bloody but ones.
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/craigbf/IMG_0633.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/craigbf/IMG_0632-1.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/craigbf/IMG_0632.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/craigbf/craigsjellydovii039.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/craigbf/IMG_0630.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/craigbf/IMG_0628.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/craigbf/craigsjellydovii018.jpg

[Ashley_Hollings]

i really like these, would be good to see you get another Mitch

[mitch]

Maybee soon.........

Craig, cheers for the pic's! Although its torture looking at them!! lol

[mitch]

A quick update:-

Not a lot has changed, I still have a pond in my front room but i have been given my old 9' tank from my old house so the pond can go soon.
On the fish front i have sadly lost my oscar who i've had for years. :(
Although i ordered 14 fish from Ross's last rapp's order only 4 Kraussi got to me. They are great little fish and i suspect i have 2 male and 2 female's as the smallest is always being chased into a corner by the bigest (which i think are the males) and the other 2 are aloud to do what they like. But being cichlids this will probably change by the time i've finished this post!

Yesturday i picked up a little snakehead from my lfs, have been looking at them for a while now. I put him in with the kraussi, although they picked on him at first it didnt take long before he was chasing them. Not wanting to harm them i took it out and placed it in the pond where if i am honest i am surprised he has lasted the night.

Not knowing a lot about the differant snakeheads i didnt (nor the shop) know what type it is but looking it up i'm 100% he's a little....... Giant snakehead!!!!!

What have i done???

[Kenny]

How bigs the pond? Any pics of it?

[mark wright]

Nice fowleri btw.

Any pics of the snakehead? If by 'giant' you mean the Red Snakehead - micropeltes - little ones look nothing like big ones.

[mitch]

Sorry its not the giant, is it the great snakehead, Channa marulius? Here is a pic i found off what it looks like, cand anybody confirm the type i have?

http://www.aquarticles.com/images/New%20England%20Aquarium/ChannaMarulius.JPG

Will get pics of pond (6x4x2) before it gets dismantled.

[mark wright]

Yep, looks like pics I have of young marulius.

[mitch]

Cheers Mark, do you know much about snakeheads?

[mark wright]

I'm no 'expert' but I've kept a few...orientalis, micropeltes, pleurophthalmus, obscurus, insignis.

Pleurophthalmus are one of my fave fish - the only shoaling sp(?) and quite peaceful.

[Diy-al]

HI mitch u got the tank back then? thats good.al

[mitch]

HI mitch u got the tank back then? thats good.al

Yes mate, cheers for the heads up!!

Mark, it was the Pleurophthalmus that got me looking at them. I may look out fur some.

[mitch]

Here you go, just for the comedy factor! :-

http://www.eacichlid.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=4241&thumb=1&d=1270675215http://www.eacichlid.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=4238&thumb=1&d=1270675353http://www.eacichlid.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=4239&thumb=1&d=1270675310http://www.eacichlid.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=4240&thumb=1&d=1270675261http://www.eacichlid.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=4242&thumb=1&d=1270675169

Dunno how you do it so you can enlarge the pic's, Mod's please feel free to edit.
Otherwise see album. (click on sig below)

[mitch]

Told you i wasn't much to see! lol

[Lee Nuttall]

Lol, i bet your missis loves you Mitch. Fish look nice and large though, you'll be glad once the tanks set back up.

[Kenny]

I like it bud. Some nice fish in there...

[mitch]

Misses is great, but we both hate it bieng there. Got the old 9' in the kitchen now so will change soon. Its not the best looking tank but will do for now, and its better than the pond lol!

[mitch]

Update:-

All fish are now moved out off pond into the 9' and i am glad to say they all look in very good condition.

I have lost since my last stock update my large oscar and my Bullhead catfish which is disapointing but all the rest look great.
Although i am happy i can see them now in the tank it's not th best looking tank in the world as it's just been trown together quickly but when i've finished hopefully it'll look better. But at the mo it looks like a lfs sump tank that has took a load of big fish in to sell on if you know what i mean, but still it's better than a pond. (i think)

Will update with pic's/vid asap.

Anyone fancy seeing the fish are more than welcome but please excuse there surroundinds for now ;)

[mitch]

It has come to light over the last couple of days that my Bo's are in fact male and femle. I've had my boubts over the male since he came out of the pond as he has developed a lump on his head but over the last day he has been displaying to the female and they have taken over and cleaned the cave where the catfish normaly stay. I have no hope at all of them laying and raising any fry as there is to much for them to have to defend against. If i had another tank i'ld remove as many of the fish as i could, but i'am not going to be setting the pond back up!! lol

I do apologise to anybody that i have said that only females have a black throat as it appears the male's do to.

[mitch]

The hetro's aswell as the bo's are at it now!! Thats 2 pairs wanting to breed.

Should i part with some fish to give them the spae to do what they want to do?

[Rick Thibert]

Only you can answer that Q mate!! Nice!!

[johnnyev]

Nice fish Mtich. Love the Snakehead.

What happened to the Oscar?

[mitch]

Cheers mate.

Dont know what happened with oscar as it was hard watching what was going on when they were in the pond. I think i'ld had it apx 6 years and it was a size when i got it.
I gave the snake head away shortly after identfied what type it was as a big snakehead is'nt in my long term plans, although i may try some mid size ones though.

Rick, it's getting a hell of a lot of thought.

[Rick Thibert]

LOL! What ya thinking then Mitch?

[mitch]

Thinking over!!

Not parting with anything, would consider the synspila red hooks and the cats but i think they'ld still struggle to breed with whats left.
Plus what would i possibly do with a load of fry, i am sure it'll be nice to say i breed these but it'll be a five minute wonder.
Thats not worth loosing some good fish over.

[johnnyev]

Sorry if this is throwing a spanner in the works Mitch & i see what your saying.
But seems a shame to not see their breeding colours/behaviour & fry grow (hopefully) "Smile""Wink".

[mitch]

I know what your saying there mate but i put my own spanner in the works today, i was a naughty boy and had an impulse buy so making space is'nt an option.

[peteruk]

So what did you buy then ?

[Rick Thibert]

Impulse Buy?? Then no details!! C'Mon Mitch! Come clean!!

[johnnyev]

I know what your saying there mate but i put my own spanner in the works today, i was a naughty boy and had an impulse buy so making space is'nt an option.

"Smile" Yeah, spill the beans you naughty boy, lol!

[craig g]

cant believe youve left it like that mate.what have u got mitch.??

[mitch]

Sorry lads, i dont get notification for replies from this tread for some reason. Plus i wanted to make sure he settled.

I was in M/A Enfield and saw 2 nice sized w/c Spectabilis, beautiful fish i had to take one.

[craig g]

very nice mate.

[mitch]

They are mate, wanted both but was told they 100% dont get on.

I got what looks like a mini umbee in my tank but hopefully without the aggression.

[Rick Thibert]

Great Fish! Not that thuggish or tough, so be watchful! :)

[mitch]

Will do, cheers for the heads up!

[mitch]

Well today is the last day i can take the spec back for a full refund but as he has settled well i'll be keeping him.

Watching him i dont tataly agree with you Rick as seems to be able to look after himself. Although he isn't aggresive himself he holds his own and doesnt move out of the way of anybody (apart from the Govner!) and has kicked the big bo's out of the place were they were looking to spawn last week and made that his home.

[mitch]

Sorry if this is throwing a spanner in the works Mitch & i see what your saying.
But seems a shame to not see their breeding colours/behaviour & fry grow (hopefully) "Smile""Wink".

Am going to cut back and see what happens. The tank has been under treatment due to my jag not being good but now that s over i maybee giving up my synspila, pearsi and menerlurum. That should give me enough space to devide the bo's/hetro's (or if i am very lucky the argee's) if i see them courting again. Plus will be getting a female spec this week so that will another pair.

In a smaller tank a pair of karussi are going though the motions, cleaing a nest and chasing the others away but they are no match for the plec's in the tank so i'll be taking them out this week aswell to see what happens.

[mitch]

Cichlids amaze me, i just been watching 2 horny hetro's try and move my big jag out of an area they wanted to be in.
Try and picture 2 jackels trying to shift a large male lion out of his den................

Needless to say he didn't move! lol

[Jim Dawson]

Hi Mitch

Nice pick ups. I've found specs to be tough cookies, not agressive to tank mates but more than able to look after themselves. Major problem with them is getting a well suited pair, my first pair were fine but the last pair were hell on wheels, had to get rid in the end as they constantly tried to kill each other and anything that was unfortunate to cross their little dispute whilst it was going on. If you do get a well suited pair they are great.

Jim

[Rick Thibert]

Best you flog those heteros to me then Mitch! ;)

[mitch]

Rick, these may be moved one one day...... thats if i ever get hold of the cichla i want and the cichla get so big the hetro's are an edable size to them......... mean while i'ld get some more myself if they came about.

Jim, Have picked up a W/C female from Ross and they have bonded well but even with me parting with a few big fish there to much in the tank for any of my pairs to breed successfully.

[mitch]

I shouldn't shout to much but i have my name on some Cichla Orinocensis, (again) hopefully these ones will get to me so i can finaly enjoy them.

[mitch]

Just noticed my hetro's are garding eggs and i can see some this time!

Wonder if there'll be there in the morning??

[Rick Thibert]

Fabulous Mitch! Did they turf the managuense in the end?

Can you pull the eggs??

[mitch]

LOL No they didn't move the Jag, they moved and done the deed in a pot. Its all going on at the mo, the bo's tubes are down and there flirting with each other again and the spec's are defending and cleaning a piece of bog wood i one of the front corners, ufortionatly there out of site so dunno whats happening behind the wood.

Not going to pull the hetro eggs as have nowhere to put them at the mo plus the hetro's are siblings. If the spec's or bo's lay and i've moved the puffer on i will try and pull there egg's, there'll have to be quick though as hopefully i'll be getting some small cichla next week to go into the puffer tank.

Which leaves me to say i will have to unfortionatly part with the puffer before i get attached to it, shame there great fish! If anybody is interested pm me.

[mitch]

Not the best pic's.

http://a.imageshack.us/img265/524/sdc11118y.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/sdc11118y.jpg/)http://a.imageshack.us/img265/9619/sdc11115.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/sdc11115.jpg/)

[mitch]

Well the egg's are still there but my Jag has pushed the parents out, dunno what he is planning on doing but h's watching the eggs but not eating them.
THe hetro's are currently displaying to eachother in another pot.

[retry]

any pics of your specs or kraussi mitch?

[mitch]

Will try later Kev.

Puffer now gone, and due to peer pressure i've move the hetro eggs into the puffer tank.

[mitch]

After having to take the hetro eggs out (due to my daughter wanting to hatch them) some of the eggs are about to hatch. What is a good food to feed them, i've just been sold some liquifry by my lfs, anybody had any experieance with this?


btw Kev, been trying all weekend to get a pic of the spec's with no luck so far. :( (you may need to pop round)

[retry]

lol

seems your as good as me with a camera then!!

guess ill have to ask for an invite,

[mitch]

LOL, camera and me..... no chance. Dont help the spec's are mainly in a corner. Havn't tried the others yet but will do tonight.

Doors always open!

[mitch]

I've just come home to find that the W/C Spec's have laid eggs, ufortionatly there on a tile which is stuck to the back panel so i cant remove them. They seem to be able to look after them so hopefully they will hatch then i'll be able to syphon the fry.

Fingers crossed!

[Kenny]

Thats a big result... Lovely fish. Any pics/vids of the adults?

[satanoperca]

Right result that did not take you long put me down for some fry if you manage to save enough have always wanted some specs never seen them about though

[mitch]

Complete rubish pic's i'am affaid, i'll see if it's any better with a vid later.
As you can see the sod's have nested right at the back corner of my tank.

http://a.imageshack.us/img291/9315/sdc11137d.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/sdc11137d.jpg/)http://a.imageshack.us/img291/1512/sdc11148k.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/sdc11148k.jpg/)
http://a.imageshack.us/img291/5440/sdc11138s.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/sdc11138s.jpg/)http://a.imageshack.us/img291/2544/sdc11149y.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/sdc11149y.jpg/)

I need to go on a photography course!

[Edoc]

Nice one Mitch! Very happy to see this! Mine layed bout a month ago but nothing came if it , not sure if the eggs were even fertilized.
Good luck with 'em .

BTW , mine are currently up for sale , with tank ,filter etc

[mitch]

Cheers all!

Only time will tell with these as there are a few preditors in the tank and there fairly near the pump. Watching them, Mum and dad seem to be taking turns at coming out to have a look around.

I saw the add for your spec's, it came up a few days after ordering my female otherwise i would of jumped at them.
Still think your mad selling the though!

[mitch]

I came home last night and all the spec eggs had gone, i was a bit peed to say the least but looking this morning i have noticed that they have been moved and they are all wriggling so all looks good so far.

The only down side is mum and dad have marks around there lips where i assume they have been defending the eggs from the other fish, i'll be keeping an eye on this to make sure it doesn't get any worse or infected.

[Rick Thibert]

Nice work Mitch! Any vids of the parents with young?

Are you gonna raise any fry??

[mitch]

Going to try mate, but haven't done it before so fingers crossed!

[Rick Thibert]

No problems mate! It will be easy for you! ;)

Do you have a tank to remove some to???

[mitch]

I have one with hetro eggs in, dunno whats happening with them. (see query thread)

Gotta sort a air filter as there's a internal eheim in there and i think it could suck up the fry.

[Rick Thibert]

Place a bit of sponge with a rubber band over the inlet to the filter. Fry won't get sucked up, actually, it proves a good place to get a snack for them. :)

[mitch]

Good thinking, cheers!

[Rick Thibert]

It does get dirty quickly though and will need cleaning quite often, slows flow rate.

[mitch]

I shouldn't shout to much but i have my name on some Cichla Orinocensis, (again) hopefully these ones will get to me so i can finaly enjoy them.

Should of kept my mouth shut! The seller never got back to me :(

[mitch]

Double bad news!

I went to bed last night with 100's of free swimming spec fry which i was hoping to get a pic and post here tonight but there doesnt seem to be any in there now.
And there isn't many hetro fry left now either.

I was just starting to think this breeding stuff was easy...... well it may be but raising the fry???????

[mitch]

Question, if/when you have fry do you carry out water changes as normal or should you cut back a bit??

Asking as i carried out water changes last night and wondered if it could be linked to the loss or just coincedence?

[Rick Thibert]

Max 25% and don't change the temp too much.................. fry are sensitive and need stability, but clean water the same................. so, common sense and re-fill very slowly

[mitch]

Well out of all the fry i had i only have apx 20-30 hetro fry left.
When/if my spec's lay again i think i'll try and get the egg's/fry out as soon as i can to try and grow them on.

[Rick Thibert]

Those are bad numbers for raising Mitch! :) Grow faster and less pollutant to the tank water. You gonna bring some for me in October to buy?? :)

Rick

[mitch]

I'll see how big they are, prommised little'n we'll grow these so at the mo there her's and she's enjoying watching them which makes me glad there is still some left.
But there'll be more for sure, may have to wait until next year though.

[Rick Thibert]

As and when mate, just keep me in mind! ;)

[mitch]

Stock update:-

Cichlids

1 x Jag, male.
1 x Maculicauda, Male .
3 x Argentea, 1 male and 1 female. Not sure on the 3rd
3 x Hetro's, 1 male 1 female. Not sure on the 3rd, also some fry.
2 x Boccourti, 1 male and 1 female.
2 x Spectabillis, 1 male and 1 female.
4 x Krausi, 1 male and 1 female not sure with the others.

non cichlids

2 x Amur Catfish
2 x Red hooks, 1 male and 1 female.
1 x L001
1 x L114
2 x L075
2 x Terrapins

[Rick Thibert]

Those terrapins, never know whether nor not I hate them or really like them in your set up! :)

Great list though Mitch! :) You're well overdue a video mate!!

[mitch]

Due to a high work load over the last month the fish have been neglected and i have lost one of the krausi which was apparently being picked on.
So today i'am having a fish day, carrying out water change's and a genral tidy up.
I am going to take a risk and put the krausi in the 9' tank as they are fighting in the 3', i think its down to them not having enough space.
I am also going to take the Jag out for a while as he's not to good again.

Rick i hear what youy saying about the terrapins but i like em even though it means i have to have an open top tank which stops me from having another arowana.

[mitch]

Water change's done, krausi moved into the big tank and appear to like it even though there the smallest by far!
Leaving the jag as he's up and about now but will keep an eye on him. I've put some pots back in the tank for any spawners as when i put them in before the spec's and hetro's spawned.

Need to get hold of a small tank for fry as i wanna dismantel 1 of the 3' and the other one is going to be used to grow some cichla.

[Lee Nuttall]

What cichla are you planning on getting Mitch?

[mitch]

Orinocensis, i have 2 with my name on with Danny Hawkings at tropical imports. If you read though previous posts i thought he was going to let me down but i am happy to say he has them still.

Problem is being home to take a delivery.